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Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 07, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

still it's fun to piss people off
plus I wannt use it in PVE for something

Sqube · Nov 07, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Sir Pandra, you can use the build anywhere where bad guys doesn't have:

- Well of the Profane
- Signet of Disenchantment
- Expunge Enchantments
- Lift Enchantment (conditional)

Sun Fired Blank · Nov 07, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20

It's kind of a pain in the ass in RA. Even in TA, people don't usually bring a means to defeat SF, but at least there, you're pretty much guarenteed the redundancy necessary to beat it. In RA, you can autolose if you don't have a healer or one of the handful of solutions that beats it. The reality, though, is that SF is broken because Deadly Paradox affects it. Which is because Deadly Paradox is a dumb skill, and I wish it would die.

Shadow Kurd · Nov 07, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

What is the build to keep it up indefinitely,

There is a 1 second gap when using Arcane Echo,Deadly Paradox + 20% Enchantment.

--> http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Image:Evershadow.png

Chicken Ftw · Nov 07, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Fired Blank

Deadly Paradox is a dumb skill, and I wish it would die.

This man speaks the truth.

ensoriki · Nov 07, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Deadly Paradox doesnt need to die >.>

IF you completely change it!!

Deadly Paradox could be like 1 of the many girls at my school >.>
Changes because no 1 likes it

and then 6 months later Emo cuts itself.

A-net: Umm new skill balance

Assassin
Deadly paradox: Shroud of Silence doesn't disable your spells anymore.
Attacking Disables your spells.
(HOLY SHIT

Shadow Refuge: Heal 80 hp, for 6 seconds you have +7 regen,..if your attacking you gain 80 hp.

Paragon: Now wears Pants

*runs*

AuraofMana · Nov 07, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

What kind of PvP are you playing? If you are talking about RA or AB (or vs. an idiotic unorganized retarded PvP team), then yes, you have a chance of not getting your Shadow Form stripped. Even with Shadow Form in PvP, what then? You can't kill as well as other sins, and I can just avoid you. Even if you keep me attacked, any decent monk can keep me alive while I rape all your teammates because you aren't doing much. Just throw a shield bash or guardian and your sin combo is messed up. As for killing you, any strip that goes through Shadow Form or an interrupt in the face when Shadow Form is down means you are pretty much dead.

Master Sword Keeper · Nov 07, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

SF can be chewed through with Touch skills. Such as Headbutt(?) and Traps..

Stop whinging...

Sqube · Nov 08, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd

What is the build to keep it up indefinitely,

There is a 1 second gap when using Arcane Echo,Deadly Paradox + 20% Enchantment.

--> http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Image:Evershadow.png

If you look at that picture more closely, it doesn't say that there's a gap. It indicates that you only have one second in which to properly set off the next SF to keep it up. Otherwise, you lose it, then you die.

RhanoctJocosa · Nov 08, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

I'll always remember when EviL brought Expunge Enchantments on their sins to counter WM's SF sins. Good times.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 08, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqube

Sir Pandra, you can use the build anywhere where bad guys doesn't have:

- Well of the Profane
- Signet of Disenchantment
- Expunge Enchantments
- Lift Enchantment (conditional)

I know where you can use it I checked out some good areas. We used farm UW and Tombs with a team one that was fun.

Also there can't be way too many AOE non target skills.

Ministry Of Peace · Nov 08, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

It's possible to keep shadow form up indefinitely, I've seen it done as recently as a few weeks ago. It DOES take extreme timing, however. Even a little bit of lag, and it will be messed up...

Issac · Nov 08, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

This one person used this in RA. It was pretty lame because we didn't have any enchantment stripping skills :S. We were stuck their until he messed up lol.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 09, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

I had one guy use it in RA and basicly kept the match up for an hour.....I kinda miss the old ways of playing those were fun, no time limit in maps good times

=DNC=Trucker · Nov 09, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13

[skill]Winds of Disenchantment[/skill] Grenth's Aura [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill]
[skill]Signet of Disenchantment[/skill][skill]Signet of Humility[/skill][skill]Blackout[/skill][skill]Signet of Disruption[/skill] Signet of Distraction [skill]Leech Signet[/skill]
[skill]Expunge Enchantments[/skill]
[skill]Shock[/skill]
Grapple
[skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill]

Seems like a lot of options to me, to create 1 dead foe with 1 skill.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 09, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Lol SF is easy to beat without a doubt but still it can be fun.

yum · Nov 10, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20

The Amos will eat all SF sins. End of story.

BTW, just interupt the arcane echo and the sin is pretty much done. (cummun 2s cast and if that's not enuf for u, stop playing)

Yanman.be · Nov 10, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06

lol yum usually you cannot interrupt arcane echo because he's under sf, and when he isn't under sf, he'll make sure he's out of range.

yum · Nov 10, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Amo amo amo. SF cant stop SOJ. Shock will do too. PLz don't list the counter that no1 would ever use.

Beside if it's his job to stay out of range, it's your job to prevent it. Try to use the radar and the map I think? Beside, I interupt those noob during the match while they are trying to score some kill, cant be out of range

Bobby2 · Nov 10, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

How cute your wiki build includes a counter. More coincidence than planning if you ask me.

Nov 07, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24	#21
Sir Pandra Pierva Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sardelec yelling at Tenshi Guild: Angels Of Strife Profession: E/	still it's fun to piss people off plus I wannt use it in PVE for something

Nov 07, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11	#22
Sqube Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Behind you... Profession: A/	Sir Pandra, you can use the build anywhere where bad guys doesn't have: - Well of the Profane - Signet of Disenchantment - Expunge Enchantments - Lift Enchantment (conditional)

Nov 07, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#23
Sun Fired Blank Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2007	It's kind of a pain in the ass in RA. Even in TA, people don't usually bring a means to defeat SF, but at least there, you're pretty much guarenteed the redundancy necessary to beat it. In RA, you can autolose if you don't have a healer or one of the handful of solutions that beats it. The reality, though, is that SF is broken because Deadly Paradox affects it. Which is because Deadly Paradox is a dumb skill, and I wish it would die.

Nov 07, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35	#24
Shadow Kurd Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: Netherlands Guild: Scouts of Tyria Profession: P/	What is the build to keep it up indefinitely, There is a 1 second gap when using Arcane Echo,Deadly Paradox + 20% Enchantment. --> http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Image:Evershadow.png

Nov 07, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#26
ensoriki Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada bro. Profession: A/D	Deadly Paradox doesnt need to die >.> IF you completely change it!! Deadly Paradox could be like 1 of the many girls at my school >.> Changes because no 1 likes it and then 6 months later Emo cuts itself. A-net: Umm new skill balance Assassin Deadly paradox: Shroud of Silence doesn't disable your spells anymore. Attacking Disables your spells. (HOLY SHIT Shadow Refuge: Heal 80 hp, for 6 seconds you have +7 regen,..if your attacking you gain 80 hp. Paragon: Now wears Pants runs

Nov 07, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31	#27
AuraofMana Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Georgia, US	What kind of PvP are you playing? If you are talking about RA or AB (or vs. an idiotic unorganized retarded PvP team), then yes, you have a chance of not getting your Shadow Form stripped. Even with Shadow Form in PvP, what then? You can't kill as well as other sins, and I can just avoid you. Even if you keep me attacked, any decent monk can keep me alive while I rape all your teammates because you aren't doing much. Just throw a shield bash or guardian and your sin combo is messed up. As for killing you, any strip that goes through Shadow Form or an interrupt in the face when Shadow Form is down means you are pretty much dead.

Nov 07, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#28
Master Sword Keeper Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dead Isle Guild: Farmers Of Woe [FoW] Profession: W/	SF can be chewed through with Touch skills. Such as Headbutt(?) and Traps.. Stop whinging...

Nov 08, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42	#30
RhanoctJocosa Legendary Korean Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: W/	I'll always remember when EviL brought Expunge Enchantments on their sins to counter WM's SF sins. Good times.

Nov 08, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17	#32
Ministry Of Peace Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: req 12 land Guild: guildless for the time being Profession: P/	It's possible to keep shadow form up indefinitely, I've seen it done as recently as a few weeks ago. It DOES take extreme timing, however. Even a little bit of lag, and it will be messed up...

Nov 08, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#33
Issac Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earthrealm Profession: W/A	This one person used this in RA. It was pretty lame because we didn't have any enchantment stripping skills :S. We were stuck their until he messed up lol.

Nov 09, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09	#34
Sir Pandra Pierva Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sardelec yelling at Tenshi Guild: Angels Of Strife Profession: E/	I had one guy use it in RA and basicly kept the match up for an hour.....I kinda miss the old ways of playing those were fun, no time limit in maps good times

Nov 09, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13	#35
=DNC=Trucker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: TLA Profession: Me/	[skill]Winds of Disenchantment[/skill] Grenth's Aura [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Signet of Disenchantment[/skill][skill]Signet of Humility[/skill][skill]Blackout[/skill][skill]Signet of Disruption[/skill] Signet of Distraction [skill]Leech Signet[/skill] [skill]Expunge Enchantments[/skill] [skill]Shock[/skill] Grapple [skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill] Seems like a lot of options to me, to create 1 dead foe with 1 skill.

Nov 09, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03	#36
Sir Pandra Pierva Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sardelec yelling at Tenshi Guild: Angels Of Strife Profession: E/	Lol SF is easy to beat without a doubt but still it can be fun.

Nov 10, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20	#37
yum Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: W/E	The Amos will eat all SF sins. End of story. BTW, just interupt the arcane echo and the sin is pretty much done. (cummun 2s cast and if that's not enuf for u, stop playing)

Nov 10, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06	#38
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	lol yum usually you cannot interrupt arcane echo because he's under sf, and when he isn't under sf, he'll make sure he's out of range.

Nov 10, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25	#39
yum Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: W/E	Amo amo amo. SF cant stop SOJ. Shock will do too. PLz don't list the counter that no1 would ever use. Beside if it's his job to stay out of range, it's your job to prevent it. Try to use the radar and the map I think? Beside, I interupt those noob during the match while they are trying to score some kill, cant be out of range

Nov 10, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55	#40
Bobby2 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards Guild: [MaSS] Profession: W/E	How cute your wiki build includes a counter. More coincidence than planning if you ask me.